Apple 8500 multipurpose tray A4 only

[Helge Blischke]

Oliver wrote:
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> Helge Blischke wrote:
> > Oliver wrote:
> > >
> > > Helge Blischke wrote:
> > > > Oliver, at, raincode, co, uk wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Helge Blischke wrote:
> > > > > > Oliver, at, raincode, co, uk wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I recently aquired a second hand Apple LaserWriter 8500 (PostScipt level 3). I got hold of the PPD file from the Apple website which was in a windows driver. Printing from the standard cassette seams to works perfectly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I try to use anything other than A4 in the multipurpose tray it either doesn't fill the whole page, or the printer prints on it self. I tried A3, DL envelopes and A5 (and A4 which works, long edge first only).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Using ABIWord The output scales from whatever to fit onto A4, using openoffice it clips.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I assume this means for some reason CUPS always thinks there is A4 paper in the tray.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This only happens when printing on linux computers with CUPS installed. printing from windows (to the cups server) works fine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anybody have any idea about this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Post (an URL to) the PPD as you did configure it for CUPS.
> > > > > > And tell us how the printer itself is configured. It probably has
> > > > > > a HTTP interface which allows to specify what media types/sizes/colors
> > > > > > are in which tray.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Helge
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The printer is several years old. You can telnet into it. However this doesnt provide any configuration relating to media. There is supposidly an interface which you can connect to it with appropriate software on an Apply, but I dont have one. I'v been told this isnt necessary. The PPD I use is
> > > > >
> > > > > The CUPS server prints to this printer via LPR.
> > > > >
> > > > > Everybody prints through the CUPS server.
> > > > >
> > > > > In windows the printers are add as an IPP printer and the correct driver selected. These print fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Browsing is inabled and the printers apear on linux machines automatically. These dont work
> > > >
> > > > Well, the PPD seems OK, but the use of the multipurpose tray requires
> > > > the page region
> > > > to be specified instead (or in addition to) page size.
> > > > As I don't know the details of your configuration (CUPS version, Winxx
> > > > version), I don't know
> > > > what really is going wrong. Could you dump a file going wrong just
> > > > before it is
> > > > transferred to the printer?
> > > >
> > > > Helge
> > > >
> > > > PS: Dumping the final print stream is best done by enabling printing to
> > > > file and
> > > > (temporarily) replacing the real backend by the file backend, leaving
> > > > everything else
> > > > unchanged.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi, thanks for your help so far.
> > >
> > > The cups server (v 1.1.14) gives the message 'PID # exited with Status 22' (or something to that affect) everytime I try to print using the file backend.
> > >
> > > I then set up the printer on debian sarge with cups v 1.1.21rc1 and used the file backend.
> > >
> > > I notice
> > > %%BeginFeature: *PageRegion A3
> > >
> > > whether it says A3 depends on what I have set on the cups web interface configure printer 'media size'. (though I only tested A4 and A3)
> > >
> > > by setting 'media size' to A3 in the cups printer configuration web interface, i managed to print a full A3 page (but not on 1.1.14)
> > >
> > > Both the following pages had A3 selected in the applications print dialog as the page size to print. The first had the cups web configuration interface set to A4, the second had it set to A3.
> > > http://www.raincode.co.uk/misc/Apple8500.ps
> > > http://www.raincode.co.uk/misc/Apple8500-2.ps
> > >
> > > the ppd
> > > http://www.raincode.co.uk/misc/Apple8500.ppd
> > >
> > > What does PageRegion mean?
> > >
> > > Also, what are 'media size' and 'media source' in the cups printer configuration web interface for? Default options i always thought...? but 'media size' apears to refer to pageregion?
> > >
> > > Thanks again for your time
> > >
> > > Oliver
> >
> > If you look at both files, you'll find some code obviously inserted
> > by some Gnome component (I don't know which one, as I'm not using
> > Gnome):
> > ---snip---
> > <<
> > /PageSize [842 1191]
> > /ImagingBBox null
> > /Duplex false
> > /Tumble false
> > /NumCopies 1
> > /Policies <<
> > /PolicyNotFound 1
> > /PageSize 3
> > >>
> > >> setpagedevice
> > ---snip---
> > which is obviously A3.
> >
> > I guess you'd ask a Gnome guru.
> >
> > Helge
> >
> 
> So the gnome component should be setting PageRegion too?  if so, thanks : ) ill head towards gnome and start complaining to them now : P ... and kde, because it doesnt work either : /
> 
> Thanks for your time
> 
> Oliver

AFAI_K, kde's kprinter allows to specify options from the PPD.

Helge

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