[cups.general] CUPS is unusable

Sat Jan 28 11:12:25 PST 2006

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Saturday 28 January 2006 03:43, Matt Hull wrote:
> >the only problem i have with cups is authentication or communication
> >between servers.  you cant change a print job unless you go to the
> > server that is printing it.  cant do it from the client.
>
> I believe thats an option that is off by default, but which can be
> enabled if you understand swahili, in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.
>

think i worded that wrong.  running multiple cups servers.  only one has
the printer.  each client computer is running a server that sends the
print job to the server with the printer.  i here 1.2 is supposed to fix
this problem

> I *think* I have that turned on, but haven't had an occasion to check it
> for function.
>
> Besides that, I hope you aren't deleting spool, as your incoming mail
> may also spend a short time in that directory/mail/username if its
> configured like I have fetchmail setup.
>

i use my isp for mail.  and i typed that quickly and think i found the
exact folder i needed.

> >i found it much easier to delete a printjob by stopping cups and
> > deleting /var/spool, alot less time and hassle
> >
> >when cups works, it works great; when it doesnt, its a b****
> >
> >:-D
> >
> >matt
> >
> >On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> On Friday 27 January 2006 23:11, Anonymous wrote:
> >> >My career started with Microsoft XENIX.  Give you some idea of how
> >> > long I've been around Unices?
> >> >
> >> >So...my impression of CUPS?  If CUPS were to be listed in a
> >> > software dictionary, there would only be one synonym:
> >> > "clusterf**k".
> >>
> >> Now now.
> >>
> >> >Now, mind you, this is just an impression.  For all I know, the
> >> > underlying software may, for all I know, be amazingly elegant.
> >>
> >> It is in fact pretty darned good when combined with gimp-print or
> >> gutenprint, gimp-prints new name, and decent printers like Epson or
> >> the better HP's.
> >>
> >> > However, the "CUPS experience" has been so miserable that I would
> >> > never know it.
> >>
> >> Have you pointed a browser at (assuming httpd is running)
> >> localhost:631? There you will find all the facilities needed to
> >> configure and test cups quite thoroughly.  And it is, after you get
> >> used to it, pretty straight forward to do.
> >>
> >> >Unfortunately, "how in the world could anyone design such a poor
> >> > system" is very much within my imagination - it's when someone has
> >> > an excellent idea backed up with (possibly) a great deal of
> >> > expertise coupled with a complete lack of understanding with how
> >> > people work.
> >> >
> >> >So, will I master CUPS?  Only as much as I have to to get things to
> >> > work - and with CUPS, that means becoming pretty adept at a lot of
> >> > nonsense.
> >>
> >> Nope, wrong attitude, that will never get you comfortable with it.
> >> Once you get a feel for it, you'll find yourself doing things you
> >> may not have thought would be so easy to do, but they are.
> >>
> >> >PS
> >> >Sadly, some of the latest Linuxes don't seem to offer any
> >> > old-fashioned "lpr" methods anymore.  "lpr" still could present
> >> > technical challanges - but it didn't have any pretense about being
> >> > usr-freindly...and you could write a bunch of scripts and/or html
> >> > cgi's to let a regular user administer it (try that with CUPS!).
> >>
> >> The Cups std install, fwiw, does contain an lpr, which if the
> >> default printer is set, works very transparently, and much like the
> >> lpr of old, only with far fewer warts.  But you don't use lpr to
> >> configure, you use the web server built into cups
> >> <http://localhost:631> to do that.
> >>
> >> I use cups here, in a 3 machine home network, and when its been
> >> configured all 3 of the machines have access to the printer, which
> >> is actually setup as 4 printers.  They are all the same Epson C82,
> >> now a bit geriatric, with each "printer" set for a different
> >> resolution from a quick draft print to full photographic quality.  I
> >> just printed a 65 page document that lives on the shop box, sitting
> >> high on a shelf out in my workshop where that box normally drives a
> >> small milling machine, with only 2-3 seconds more lag in getting the
> >> job started than if I'd printed it from this box.  ssh'd into it
> >> from here where its nice and comfy, out there its about 25 degrees
> >> ATM.
> >>
> >> Give cups a chance, it genuinely is a better way, or linux wouldn't
> >> have deprecated lprNG years ago.  Having lost the battles with lprNG
> >> several times in the early years, I really appreciate the stability
> >> cups has brought to my printing here.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers, Gene
> >> People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the
> >> word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's
> >> stupid bounce rules.  I do use spamassassin too. :-)
> >> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
> >> message by Gene Heskett are:
> >> Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
> >>
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> --
> Cheers, Gene
> People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word
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> stupid bounce rules.  I do use spamassassin too. :-)
> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
> message by Gene Heskett are:
> Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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