[cups.general] Photosmart 2570 Reverse Print Order Not Working

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 23 March 2007, John Gillis wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Friday 23 March 2007, Helge Blischke wrote:
>>> Jack Gillis wrote:
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helge Blischke"
>>>> <h.blischke at srz.de> Newsgroups: cups.general
>>>> To: <cups at easysw.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 8:38 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [cups.general] Photosmart 2570 Reverse Print Order Not
>>>> Working
>>>>
>>>>> Jack Gillis wrote:
>>>>>> Under FC6 with HPILP 1.7.2  installed and running,  my Photosmart
>>>>>> 2570 does not print
>>>>>> multi-page documents in the proper order in all cases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Printing from Firefox and Adobe produces prints the pages in
>>>>>> reverse order,
>>>>>> the last page first followed by all the pages with the first page
>>>>>> last. Since the printer produces the pages face up in the output
>>>>>> tray they are in
>>>>>> the correct order for reading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, Open Office Calc, Write and Gedit prints the first page
>>>>>> first order
>>>>>> so that the printed pages appear with the first page on the bottom
>>>>>> face up
>>>>>> and the last page on top and I have to arrange them in the proper
>>>>>> order for
>>>>>> reading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used the HP Device Manager to set the 'reverse order' but it
>>>>>> doesn't seem
>>>>>> to take effect for Calc, Write and Gedit. Localhost:631 doesn't
>>>>>> offer a chance to change the order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I get the order set to print multi-page documents in
>>>>>> reverse order
>>>>>> for all cases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> OpenOffice as of version 2.x (2.1 is the latest) manages reverse
>>>>> order printing by itself. If the printer's PPD offers a choice for
>>>>> face up or face down, it must be selected by OO's print menu as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Helge
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: I can't post an example, as I only have the german localized
>>>>> version installed.
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much Helge.  I have oo 2.07 and can find where to
>>>> select reverse order in Write but not in Calc.  Can you point me to
>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> I suspect there is no choice for reverse order printing in calc.
>>> But if you first select print preview, you will know how many
>>> pages it will print, the you may select the pages to print
>>> in descending order (page numbers separated by semicolons, I think).
>>>
>>> Helge
>>>
>>> PS: perhaps ons should file a bug to the OO folks.
>>
>> Let me toss in an additional tidbit of info here, nothing to do with
>> cups. Acrobat reader has this ability in the last couple of linux
>> releases.  It works for small number of pages pdf documents, but in
>> one about 40 page document I printed about a month ago, one side, and
>> I now forget which side, repeatedly came out in fwd order even though
>> backwards was checked. I eventually gave up and printed it in fwd
>> order, with page 1 face down in order to get a good copy, but I
>> probably fought with it for at least 80 wasted sheets of paper. 
>> Kprinter I believe also suffers from this.
>
>Hmm. For some reason that doesn't surprise me. I think I will go out and
>buy stock in some paper company for I, too, have wasted a lot of paper.
>
>Thanks again for all you help.
>
Not too bad an idea, the paper stock.  Now I'd like to propose a test of 
sorts, something that might be reproducible on a small scale without 
wasting a couple of trees worth of paper.

Could this be the result of an out of memory situation that causes it to 
silently revert when it detects that the amount of rasterization(sp) 
memory is insufficient to hold the whole documents images?

One could test this by reducing that setting in cupsd.conf to a small 
value, barely sufficient to hold one page at the resolution chosen.  
Under 'RIPCache' where I have it set for 170 megs as there's a gig in 
this machine.

Humm, but it worked for one side of the document, so it should for the 
other.  So maybe there's no validity to the idea and I'm just playing 
thought games...  Anyway, since then I check the page count and if over 
20 do duplex so its face down in order when done.


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