Jobs going to Stopped - Cups Restart theOnly Resort

Anurag anurag.chourasia at gmail.com
Thu Nov 4 11:55:22 PDT 2010


Dear Cups Team,

Is there a way to reduce the wait time of 300 seconds for reading the command status bytes as it appears in the logs below?

"Remote host did not respond with command status byte after 300 seconds"

What could be the lowest possible safe value that I can use for this?

Regards,
Anurag

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> On Nov 3, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Anurag Chourasia wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >=20
> > Thanks for the response.
> >=20
> > There is a "ErrorPolicy" variable. Do you think I could use that to =
> overcome this situation? Basically asking the printer to retry the job =
> instead of stopping?
>
> Yes, you can use the retry-job or retry-current-job (in recent versions =
> of CUPS) to have the scheduler (cupsd) retry the job.  Use the "lpadmin" =
> command to set the printer-error-policy option ("lpadmin -p name -o =
> printer-error-policy=3Dretry-current-job").
>
> > What is not clear to me is whether the printer will retry the job once =
> or as many times until the job succeeds?
>
> The limits are controlled by the JobRetryLimit and JobRetryInterval =
> directives in cupsd.conf. The defaults are 5 and 30, respectively. Use =
> the "cupsctl" command to change them ("cupsctl JobRetryLimit=3D999 =
> JobRetryInterval=3D5").
>
> > http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.4/ref-printers-conf.html =
> has more on this Variable.
> >=20
> > Regards,
> > Anurag
> >=20
> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> =
> wrote:
> > On Nov 3, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Anurag Chourasia wrote:
> >> Hi Mike,
> >>=20
> >> This is a Zebra printer. Zebra earlier indicated that IPP is not =
> supported.
> >>=20
> >> Earlier we tried to use Socket but ran into even more serious issues. =
> With Socket Protocol, out of every 10 label requests submitted all the =
> jobs go to successful status but only 1 or 2 labels actually used to =
> come out of the printer.
> >>=20
> >> Is there anything else we could try to make lpd behave better in this =
> scenario? Please guide.
> >=20
> > Unfortunately, the issue you are running into is that the printer is =
> either not sending its response packet (that tells us the job was =
> submitted successfully) or the packet is getting lost on the network and =
> the printer isn't re-sending the packet when it doesn't get an ack from =
> the CUPS system. If socket isn't working, my guess is either a problem =
> with the printer's network interface or your network in general.
> >=20
> > It would be useful for you to run Wireshark on the CUPS system to =
> monitor the LPD traffic between the system and printer. You can also =
> hook up a hardware network analyzer to see what kind of packet =
> loss/error rate you have. (Many routers also provide this =
> information...)
> >=20
> >>=20
> >> Regards,
> >> Anurag
> >>=20
> >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> =
> wrote:
> >> LPD is not a reliable protocol. If the printer in question supports =
> IPP or socket printing, use that instead.
> >>=20
> >> On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Anurag wrote:
> >>=20
> >> > Dear Cups Team,
> >> >
> >> > We are facing a problem whereby the label printer stops printing =
> when multiple print requests are received in a short span of time.
> >> >
> >> > In my tests, i sent around 80 Labels to print to the printer within =
> a span of 20 seconds. This volume is pretty low for the Warehouse =
> Operations and it is important that the printing works without any =
> problems in such a scenario. Any help in this regard would be highly =
> appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > In my tests, the job number 7357 was the one that got stuck. All =
> other jobs following the job 7357 went to pending status.
> >> >
> >> > After waiting on job 7357, the printer finally decided to Stop the =
> job and the job went to Stopped status. At this stage, the printer =
> status is shown as "/usr/lib/cups/backend/lpd Failed". The only way to =
> print the remaining labels is to restart the printer again.
> >> >
> >> > I have uploaded the complete error_log at =
> http://pastebin.com/2i7V7SZ7
> >> >
> >> > Here are some of the lines from the error_log that are relevant to =
> job 7357, It seems to have failed exactly after 5 minutes of job =
> submission.
> >> >
> >> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] [Job 7357] Adding start banner page =
> "none".
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] Discarding unused job-created =
> event...
> >> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] [Job 7357] Adding job file of type =
> text/plain.
> >> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] [Job 7357] Adding end banner page =
> "none".
> >> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] [Job 7357] Queued on =
> "concepcion_115" by "lgfadm".
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] [Job 7357] hold_until =3D 0
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 13 =
> status_code=3D0 (successful-ok)
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] cupsdCloseClient: 13
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] cupsdAcceptClient: skipping =
> getpeercon()
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] cupsdAcceptClient: 13 from localhost =
> (Domain)
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] [Job 7352] Unloading...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] [Job 7353] Unloading...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] [Job 7354] Unloading...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] [Job 7355] Unloading...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] cupsdReadClient: 13 POST / HTTP/1.1
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] Discarding unused =
> printer-state-changed event...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] Discarding unused =
> printer-state-changed event...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] [Job 7357] Connected to =
> 10.8.25.115:515 (IPv4) (local port 994)...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] [Job 7357] lpd_command 02 =
> lp-cd-esp-115-P1
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] [Job 7357] Sending command string =
> (18 bytes)...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] [Job 7357] Reading command status...
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> > W [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] [Job 7357] Remote host did not =
> respond with command status byte after 300 seconds!
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] Discarding unused =
> printer-state-changed event...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] [Job 7357] lpd_command returning 4
> >> > E [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] PID 19148 =
> (/usr/lib/cups/backend/lpd) stopped with status 1!
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] [Job 7357] File 0 is complete.
> >> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] [Job 7357] Backend returned status 1 =
> (failed)
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] Discarding unused =
> printer-state-changed event...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] Discarding unused printer-stopped =
> event...
> >> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] Saving printers.conf...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] Discarding unused job-stopped =
> event...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:02 -0300] [Job 7357] Unloading...
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:02 -0300] Report: clients=3D1
> >> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:02 -0300] Report: jobs=3D196
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The last line in page_log is as follows
> >> >       concepcion_115 lgfadm 7357 [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] 1 1 - =
> localhost
> >> >
> >> > The printer is using lpd as indicated below and also shown are the =
> printer options
> >> >       device for concepcion_115: lpd://10.8.25.115/lp-cd-esp-115-P1
> >> >
> >> > [lgfadm at L573P] /home/lgfadm :\>lpoptions -pconcepcion_115
> >> > finishings=3D3 copies=3D1 job-hold-until=3Dno-hold job-priority=3D50 =
> number-up=3D1 auth-info-required=3Dnone job-sheets=3Dnone,none =
> printer-info=3D'Concepcion 115' printer-is-accepting-jobs=3D1 =
> printer-is-shared=3D1 printer-location=3DConcepcion =
> printer-make-and-model=3D'Local Raw Printer' printer-state=3D5 =
> printer-state-change-time=3D1288836721 printer-state-reasons=3Dpaused =
> printer-type=3D4
> >> >
> >> > Please guide.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Anurag
> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >>=20
> >> =
> ________________________________________________________________________
> >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
> >>=20
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> > =
> ________________________________________________________________________
> > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
> >=20
> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
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> <html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
> -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
> "><div><div>On Nov 3, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Anurag Chourasia =
> wrote:</div><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi Mike,<div><br></div><div>Thanks =
> for the response.</div><div><br></div><div>There is a "<span =
> class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: 'Lucida Grande', =
> Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); =
> line-height: 16px; "><code style=3D"font: normal normal normal =
> 1.1em/normal 'Courier New', monospace, Fixed; font-weight: 100; =
> ">ErrorPolicy"</code> variable. Do you think I could use that to =
> overcome this situation? Basically asking the printer to retry the job =
> instead of stopping?</span></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Yes, you =
> can use the retry-job or retry-current-job (in recent versions of CUPS) =
> to have the scheduler (cupsd) retry the job.  Use the "lpadmin" =
> command to set the printer-error-policy option ("lpadmin -p name -o =
> printer-error-policy=3Dretry-current-job").</div><div><br></div><div><bloc=
> kquote type=3D"cite">
>
> <div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#333333" face=3D"'Lucida =
> Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"line-height: 16px;">What is not clear to me is whether the =
> printer will retry the job once or as many times until the job =
> succeeds?</span></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div>The limits are =
> controlled by the JobRetryLimit and JobRetryInterval directives in =
> cupsd.conf. The defaults are 5 and 30, respectively. Use the "cupsctl" =
> command to change them ("cupsctl JobRetryLimit=3D999 =
> JobRetryInterval=3D5").</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
>
> <div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#333333" face=3D"'Lucida =
> Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"line-height: 16px;"><a =
> href=3D"http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.4/ref-printers-conf.ht=
> ml">http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.4/ref-printers-conf.html</=
> a> has more on this Variable.</span></font></div>
>
> <div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#333333" face=3D"'Lucida =
> Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"line-height: 16px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font =
> class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#333333" face=3D"'Lucida Grande', =
> Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"line-height: 16px;">Regards,</span></font></div>
>
> <div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#333333" face=3D"'Lucida =
> Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"line-height: 16px;">Anurag<br></span></font><br><div =
> class=3D"gmail_quote">
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Michael Sweet <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a =
> href=3D"mailto:msweet at apple.com">msweet at apple.com</a>></span> =
> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
> ..8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
>
> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><div class=3D"im"><div>On Nov =
> 3, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Anurag Chourasia wrote:</div><blockquote =
> type=3D"cite">Hi Mike,<div><br></div><div>This is a Zebra printer. Zebra =
> earlier indicated that IPP is not supported.</div>
>
> <div><br></div><div>Earlier we tried to use Socket but ran into even =
> more serious issues. With Socket Protocol, out of every 10 label =
> requests submitted all the jobs go to successful status but =
> only 1 or 2 labels actually used to come out of the printer.</div>
>
>
>
> <div><br></div><div>Is there anything else we could try to make lpd =
> behave better in this scenario? Please =
> guide.</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>Unfortunately, the issue =
> you are running into is that the printer is either not sending its =
> response packet (that tells us the job was submitted successfully) or =
> the packet is getting lost on the network and the printer isn't =
> re-sending the packet when it doesn't get an ack from the CUPS system. =
> If socket isn't working, my guess is either a problem with the printer's =
> network interface or your network in general.</div>
>
> <div><br></div><div>It would be useful for you to run Wireshark on the =
> CUPS system to monitor the LPD traffic between the system and printer. =
> You can also hook up a hardware network analyzer to see what kind of =
> packet loss/error rate you have. (Many routers also provide this =
> information...)</div>
>
> <div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br><blockquote =
> type=3D"cite"><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Anurag<br><br><div =
> class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Michael Sweet =
> <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:msweet at apple.com" =
> target=3D"_blank">msweet at apple.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
>
>
>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
> ..8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">LPD is not a reliable =
> protocol. If the printer in question supports IPP or socket printing, =
> use that instead.<br>
> <div><div></div><div><br>
> On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Anurag wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > Dear Cups Team,<br>
> ><br>
> > We are facing a problem whereby the label printer stops printing =
> when multiple print requests are received in a short span of time.<br>
> ><br>
> > In my tests, i sent around 80 Labels to print to the printer within =
> a span of 20 seconds. This volume is pretty low for the Warehouse =
> Operations and it is important that the printing works without any =
> problems in such a scenario. Any help in this regard would be highly =
> appreciated.<br>
>
>
>
>
> ><br>
> > In my tests, the job number 7357 was the one that got stuck. All =
> other jobs following the job 7357 went to pending status.<br>
> ><br>
> > After waiting on job 7357, the printer finally decided to Stop the =
> job and the job went to Stopped status. At this stage, the printer =
> status is shown as "/usr/lib/cups/backend/lpd Failed". The only way to =
> print the remaining labels is to restart the printer again.<br>
>
>
>
>
> ><br>
> > I have uploaded the complete error_log at <a =
> href=3D"http://pastebin.com/2i7V7SZ7" =
> target=3D"_blank">http://pastebin.com/2i7V7SZ7</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Here are some of the lines from the error_log that are relevant to =
> job 7357, It seems to have failed exactly after 5 minutes of job =
> submission.<br>
> ><br>
> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] [Job 7357] Adding start banner page =
> "none".<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] Discarding unused job-created =
> event...<br>
> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] [Job 7357] Adding job file of type =
> text/plain.<br>
> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] [Job 7357] Adding end banner page =
> "none".<br>
> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] [Job 7357] Queued on =
> "concepcion_115" by "lgfadm".<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] [Job 7357] hold_until =3D 0<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 13 =
> status_code=3D0 (successful-ok)<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:58 -0300] cupsdCloseClient: 13<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] cupsdAcceptClient: skipping =
> getpeercon()<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] cupsdAcceptClient: 13 from localhost =
> (Domain)<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] [Job 7352] Unloading...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] [Job 7353] Unloading...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] [Job 7354] Unloading...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] [Job 7355] Unloading...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:06:59 -0300] cupsdReadClient: 13 POST / =
> HTTP/1.1<br>
> > .<br>
> > .<br>
> > .<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] Discarding unused =
> printer-state-changed event...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] Discarding unused =
> printer-state-changed event...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] [Job 7357] Connected to <a =
> href=3D"http://10.8.25.115:515/" target=3D"_blank">10.8.25.115:515</a> =
> (IPv4) (local port 994)...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] [Job 7357] lpd_command 02 =
> lp-cd-esp-115-P1<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] [Job 7357] Sending command string =
> (18 bytes)...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] [Job 7357] Reading command =
> status...<br>
> > .<br>
> > .<br>
> > .<br>
> > W [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] [Job 7357] Remote host did not =
> respond with command status byte after 300 seconds!<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] Discarding unused =
> printer-state-changed event...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] [Job 7357] lpd_command returning =
> 4<br>
> > E [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] PID 19148 =
> (/usr/lib/cups/backend/lpd) stopped with status 1!<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] [Job 7357] File 0 is complete.<br>
> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] [Job 7357] Backend returned status 1 =
> (failed)<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] Discarding unused =
> printer-state-changed event...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] Discarding unused printer-stopped =
> event...<br>
> > I [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] Saving printers.conf...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:01 -0300] Discarding unused job-stopped =
> event...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:02 -0300] [Job 7357] Unloading...<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:02 -0300] Report: clients=3D1<br>
> > D [03/Nov/2010:23:12:02 -0300] Report: jobs=3D196<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > The last line in page_log is as follows<br>
> >       concepcion_115 lgfadm 7357 =
> [03/Nov/2010:23:07:01 -0300] 1 1 - localhost<br>
> ><br>
> > The printer is using lpd as indicated below and also shown are the =
> printer options<br>
> >       device for concepcion_115: lpd://<a =
> href=3D"http://10.8.25.115/lp-cd-esp-115-P1" =
> target=3D"_blank">10.8.25.115/lp-cd-esp-115-P1</a><br>
> ><br>
> > [lgfadm at L573P] /home/lgfadm :\>lpoptions -pconcepcion_115<br>
> > finishings=3D3 copies=3D1 job-hold-until=3Dno-hold job-priority=3D50 =
> number-up=3D1 auth-info-required=3Dnone job-sheets=3Dnone,none =
> printer-info=3D'Concepcion 115' printer-is-accepting-jobs=3D1 =
> printer-is-shared=3D1 printer-location=3DConcepcion =
> printer-make-and-model=3D'Local Raw Printer' printer-state=3D5 =
> printer-state-change-time=3D1288836721 printer-state-reasons=3Dpaused =
> printer-type=3D4<br>
>
>
>
>
> ><br>
> > Please guide.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards,<br>
> > Anurag<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
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> <br>
> =
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> PWG Chair<br>
> </font><div><div></div><div><br>
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