[cups.general] [Fwd: [Printing-user-general] Why has nothing changed?]

[Bernd Krumböck]

Komal Shah wrote:

> What you think people?
> 

Why hard working people must vindicate themself, whereas lazy idiots will be
promoted in the same time?

I'm only an interrested CUPS user, so this are only my private thinkings.


> Two years ago, Eric Raymond posted his experiences with CUPS:
> http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/cups-horror.html
> in which he points out, with specific examples, that CUPS is a nightmare
> to configure.

This is a wrong interpretation, because he tries to configure CUPS with a
third party administration tool. Using other administration tools will
produce other results.

CUPS is also not responsible for the lack of network knowledge. --> this
issue can't be fixed by a software or engineer


> Today, in 2006, it is obvious to anyone who looks at the forums that CUPS
> is *still* a nightmare to configure. Practically no progress has been made
> in 2 years.

Yes, I forgot the old users wish:
I want to change the world with a simple "mouse-tap" (Mausschubser)!   ;)

Feel free to solve this issue, or at least make suggestions how this could
be done.


> What needs to change is not just the unusable documentation and
> misleading GUI.

Same again. --> I didn't found a German translation in CUPS 1.2 --> I simple
created one.
We can talk the whole day about how we can make the world better, or we can
simple do it!

 
> Example 1:
> "Did you make sure you checked the CUPS man pages ? The most important
> ones are
> those for lpadmin, lpr, lp, lpc, lpq, lpstat, cupsd.conf, lprm . At the
> end of
> most man pages you might be pointed to other man pages. Go read them too."
> 
> My response:
> You mean I need to read an unspecified number of 'man' documents but at
> least
> *eight*, IN ADDITION to the CUPS manual, just to configure a printer?
> GET OUT!!

Man pages should not be used as replacement for the documentation!


For all other examples/problems/... create a feature request and make good
suggestions how this can be implemented.

 
> Time to fork the CUPS project?

I don't understand how this should help. 

Everybody in the forums tries to help and the developers of CUPS does a good
job! If there are people which are able to do it better, why they want to
fork and don't try to help?


best regards!
Bernd Krumböck